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Martin was especially worried about getting his one kiss
with another man right and turned to some of the gay men on the film crew to
make sure he was believably playing the part.
I have friends who have done a gay scene, but it’s always
like kind of jokey; it would be like on Saturday
Night Live, like a guy kissing a guy and everybody is like, ‘Oh my god,
they’re not gay.’ But this is an entirely different task. This has to be like
real. And there were some gay guys on the crew and there would be scenes I’d do
and I’d kind of check with them, like, ‘Did I sell that right?’ Now of course I
think in the end, heterosexual or gay love isn’t going to be very different,
but still if you’re a heterosexual person and you’re trying to portray
something accurately here, you have to do it correctly.
What did that particular scene involve?
There’s a scene where I kiss a guy – the only scene where I
have a real kiss – and I’m on a dance floor and these girls pull me in to dance
with them in my family’s bar in the motel, and they pull me onto the dance and
a girl plants a kiss on me and then I push away from her. And then a guy grabs
me and swings me around and kisses me, and at first I pull back, like who’s
kissing me? And then I see him and I’m like, ‘Oh my god – it’s you!’And then I
go back in for the kiss and it’s more passionate and it’s real and there’s a
catharsis and everybody cheers.
The second kiss – once I pull away and I go back in – I
remember asking one of the guys on the crew named David, ‘Did I sell that well
enough? Like did that look like I was into him enough?’ Not that it takes a gay
guy to know that. A girl probably could have told me as much, but, I don’t
know, there seems to be a certain deference and creditability.
The moment was especially important to Martin’s character as
it marked not only his coming out publicly, but coming out to his father as
well. “It’s a real kind of moment, and my father in the movie is there, and
right after I kiss him I realize, ‘Oh my God, my dad doesn’t know that I’m gay
and I look, and he’s gone.’ Like, a moment before we saw him sitting there,
this happened on the dance floor and I’m like elated, and then I catch myself
and I look and say, uh-oh, what have I done?”
But looking back Martin believes the true acting challenge
wasn’t the kiss; it was believably trying to go back in time and capture what
Tiber felt and thought back then.
I think that’s where the acting test really came in. Not so
much in showing affection for another person. It is how do you let your guard
down in a time that we don’t know right now? I’m sure a lot of gay people do
know that time right now. Maybe if you live in a certain town in the Midwest –
I’m sure it’s very real still. But in 1969 in New York … cops just go into a
bar and they can just do as they please or just rough people up as if they’d
committed a crime or something. I think that’s where it got – that was a real
period piece and it was a real task to communicate that and to convey that.
What in particular was Martin able to bring to the part?
I think what I could really bring to it was an awkwardness
and a vulnerability. When you’re just not comfortable in your own skin. Nobody
is born cool as a baby and just like has it, you know? Even like running in the
movie. There were times I had to run and I tried to remove all layers of trying
to look cool and tough and just be vulnerable. Not that that’s necessarily gay,
that’s just - in order to become this guy who is gay I wanted to just be a
vulnerable person.
Indeed, it was that vulnerability which Martin found both
fascinating about the role and easiest to connect with.
I think that what’s more interesting is that if you’re
trying to hide something, the more vulnerable the person is, I think that’s a
greater struggle to hide something. [I think if you aren’t vulnerable or hiding
something] that’s a less interesting struggle to me. Whatever the person’s
sexuality or religion or whatever it is.
Appearing in virtually every scene of the movie left Martin
feeling vulnerable; that in turn, convinced how important trust was in
succeeding in the part.
On the movie set I learned that trust is maybe the most
valuable thing because I need to trust the director. I need to trust the
script. I need to trust the other people in the scene, and trust hair and
makeup and all that stuff. I can’t control that. And that’s where I wanted
feedback because you don’t want to do a caricature either.
Given Martin’s thoughtfulness and Ang Lee’s track record
with Brokeback Mountain and The Wedding Banquet it’s easy to trust
that neither Martin’s performance nor Lee’s direction will do anything other
than hit all the right notes.
Demetri Martin
Aww, the guy is so cute!
Thanks for the interview! It was an interesting read :)
Harvey Milk: You gotta give 'em hope.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan
Jeffrey Dean Morgan, BDW on "Supernatural," is also in this film, as is Emile Hirsch. It could be a good one!
"The mountain has wings."
Very nice. The film sounds interesting, but --
when is someone going to hire gay actors to play gay characters?
When more gay actors come
Focus Features = Gay
So I guess Focus Features is the film equivalent of the Bravo TV channel. It is not exclusively gay, but is the leader in making mainstream gay content. Good for them, and good for Ang Lee and Demetri Martin. Looking forward to this one.
Saw his stand up special
last January?
Soundtrack should be interesting
I'm wondering about the soundtrack for this movie. Being a teen during the Woodstock days I'm hoping they use Melanies "Lay Down (Candles in the rain)" as the title song. It would be a GREAT fit.
Can't wait, looks to be fun flick!
Jim Baldwin
Spokane WA
http://MelanieCult.com (My fan site)
http://MelaniesMusic.com (Melanies official site)
Not excited about this
between the lines
I have a lot of faith in Ang Lee's choices but that interview comes across as-
"I was nervous when I read the script because I'D NEVER KISSED A GUY BEFORE"
"I did a lot of research because I'D NEVER KISSED A GUY BEFORE"
"I asked a gay guy about the kiss because I'D NEVER KISSED A GUY BEFORE"
Relax Demitri, we get it; kissing guys ain't your thing...
Sometimes it's hard to convey an interviewee's state of
He looks awfullly cute in
Gotta say
Not really a gay film
He did seem to say several times in the interview that the film does not focus that much on him being gay, and when he talks about the kiss he says it's the only one in the film. So it doesn't sound like there is much gay content to the film, especially since they are cutting out Stonewall. Really doesn't seem like something I need to spend time watching.
Also anyone who has spent time being a writer for Conan O'Brian, has to be a huge homophobe, JMO!!
Wel since the main character
Wel since the main character is gay and the storie is about a event in history he was very closly involved with i don't understand why it's not a gay film (among other things).
Ang Lee can make great movie's although most of his movie's seem to be a little on the depressing side and i hope he lightens things up for this one. And he can (and probably will)use the classic songs that where played then as soundtrack.
I can't wait for this movie!!