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Review: "I Love You, Man"Take, for example, Doug (career gay-player Thomas Lennon from Reno 911), the unsuspecting gay guy with whom Peter is unsuspectingly set up on a date. Even though Doug is there to provide an easy laugh when he kisses Peter after dinner, the only "gross-out" element played to is the fact that Doug is a smoker, and that Peter tastes like an ashtray when he gets home. Both Peter and Zooey find it amusing rather than disgusting that a guy kissed him, while the smoker's breath is the dealbreaker. The ads for the movie play the gay date off to be a one-joke affair, but Doug actually appears throughout the movie in some funny moments, and like the film's oddball likable characters, he demonstrates a bit of heart. Again, considering that the movie is all about the different kinds of relationships among men, the gay man/straight man variations are welcome inclusions.
While the film's heart is certainly in the right place and its subversion of the rom-com genre is daring for a mainstream comedy, it might miss the mark for some viewers. There's a lot of time spent with Rudd and Segel improvising, riffing and jamming to Rush songs, which might not be everyone's cup of tea. While the movie does offer its fair share of dirty jokes and gross-out gags, it's not nearly as audacious as Knocked Up or Forgetting Sarah Marshall (both of which featured both Rudd and Segel), so it would be wise to go in with an open mind. It might be going a bit far to call I Love You, Man an evolution in buddy movies (and I promised myself I wouldn't use the term "bromantic comedy", so that's out), but what it does with the romantic comedy template is actually wonderfully revolutionary: It puts the love between two straight men front-and-center, and celebrates it in front of a crowd of wedding guests, friends and family, gay and straight alike. At the very least it's a sign that there has been a shift in what mainstream movies are willing to tackle and how gay-panic impulses are no longer the status quo (although we're due for another Larry the Cable Guy movie in, what, 3three minutes or so?).
And of course it's an excuse to watch Paul Rudd making hilariously awkward faces and whipping up root beer floats with Pirouette straws for his lady and her friends, and who can't enjoy that for a few hours? Back in the day Butch and Sundance had to end their hetero romance in a shower of bullets, but today it's something to celebrate, laugh along with and enjoy. And I Love You, Man is a charming and funny straight love story that doesn't leave anyone out in the cold. Watch the trailer for I Love You, Man. Submitted by on Wed, 2009-03-18 21:53. |
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Any discussion of the rise of the Bromance
in entertainment in the past few years should include the characters of Turk and J.D. on the sitcom Scrubs.
Their bromance has been a cornerstone of the show since the beginning, and led to the number Guy Love during the Scrubs musical episode. Scrubs doesn't resort to gay panic regarding their relationship, but they do sometimes head into gay panic-adjacent territory, with Turk occasionally feeling the need to verbally reassert his heterosexuality. I'm hoping that "I Love You, Man" and future bromance-centered projects manage to move past that need.
No gay panic in Scrubs??
I disagree
scrubs
I admit I don't watch every single Scrubs episode. However, I don't think it would be called gay panic humour, simply because the true affection between JD and Turk is actually shown as a good thing for both of them. The fact that they appear "gay" because they love each other as friends, is not exactly the punchline. The humour comes from the fact that audience is presented with a surprising, unfamiliar, and possibly uncomfortable social scenario that they don't know how to react to. Laughter is a way to release the tension of that discomfort, but it also removes the discomfort, because we realise how silly it is.
I watched a very funny black comedian talk about an experience where somebody assumed that he was a dangerous person, because of his race. Obviously they're not. He described the situation in a way that showed how ridiculous the other person's reaction was. That was uncomfortable because it brought up issues of racial tension that we don't always like to admit to in polite conversation. But the punchline wasn't the fact that all white people are racist. Obviously they're not. That joke was actually a way to make people think about the way inherent prejuidices affect so many of us, but in a way that didn't make anybody defensive.
Exactly.
In the case of Scrubs, they do appear to come close to gay panic scenarios, but in the majority of instances, the goal, as you stated, seems to be to get the audience to confront their own perceptions and misperceptions.
Sometimes it's a guest star like Colin Farrell assuming that Turk (Donald Faison) and J.D. (Zach Braff) are a couple,
or The Todd (Robert Maschio) being obnoxiously sexually inappropriate with both men and women,
or Dr. Cox and his brother-in-law (John C. McGinley and Brendan Fraser) leaning in for a full-on kiss - only to have it revealed to be a game of "gay chicken"
or J.D.'s brother (Tom Cavanaugh) assuming he's invited to have a threeway with Elliot (Sarah Chalke) and her boyfriend Keith (Travis Schuldt),
only to have Keith tell Elliot that he just wishes she'd let him know about these things ahead of time
before heading into the bedroom.
More often than not, Scrubs (as I perceive it) is trying to get the audience to take a fresh look at their initial perceptions from a different perspective, and to not give in to gay panic.
Gay Chicken
And there's the rub -
Another concept done to death
afhickman
The trailer looks deadly. Gay panic and fart jokes do not a movie make. Rudd should have learned this from "Role Models." Likeable as he is, he has played essentially the same character in every film he's been in (high points include "Clueless" and "The Object of My Affection"--both from the '90s!) At least J. K. Simmons is along for the ride. Maybe he'll work the same magic here he did for "Read After Burning."
"The mountain has wings."
I agree
The trailer is horrible - when I posted it on the blog a few months ago I mourned the death of my one-sided bromance with Paul Rudd. But it really is one of those cases where the guys who made the movie and the guys who made the trailer were likely never introduced - I was pleasantly surprised at how well-balanced the movie is and how there actually is no gay panic to be had, despite what the trailer suggests.
And BTW - Paul, you can have me back now.
How nice of them
After 4 or 5 years of making the same movie over and over and over, one of Judd Apatow's favorite lackeys, Paul Rudd, finally makes one which doesn't use homophobic slurs and anti-gay images for laughs.
Of course, since they have made this same lousy movie so many times, this one may not do well, so you know what that means. They will have twice as many homophobic jokes in the next one.
Thanks for the review Brian
I've wanted to see this movie since first reading an interview of Andy Samberg talking about his role, and it sounded like we'd get to see a gay character like never before. I'm always worried with movies like this, but don't like to prejudge without having seen them. Your review was very informational and balanced, and now I look forward to the movie even more.
This looks like a lot of
This looks like a lot of fun! I love Paul Rudd, Jason Segel, Andy Samberg and Rashida Jones, so it sounds like it's going to be a blast.
I would usually avoid seeing films like this in the theatre, just because I am easily distracted by the inevitable obnoxious straight (?) guy in the theatre who feels the need to "eeew" whenever anything remotely gay happens. Sounds like the movie might have the potential for a few of those, but overall it seems like they dodged a few bullets.
Great review.
I'm glad to hear this movie is good
I've noticed a swing back to homophobia in comedy over the past couple years, often out of nowhere--the cab driver calling Luke Wilson "Fag" in the first few minutes of "Old School," and "Waiting" was one long, sniggering parade of "fag" jokes. (When a movie tries to be satirical about it, as in "Idiocracy," most of the troglodytes in the audience don't get that the movie's barbed comments about people stupid enough to call anyone intelligent enough to speak coherently as "faggy" are about them.) As I'm currently teaching incarcarated teens, I get to hear plenty of homophobic remarks during the day (none directed at me), and despite my continued metered-out punishments for them saying such remarks, it's still always the first line of attack for insecure teen males.
One of my favorite "straight boy" romances is the bond between Parker Lewis and Mikey in "Parker Lewis Can't Lose." It was really clear that they were both straight, yet they also meant everything to each other. (The couple episodes where they had falling-outs, they actually--gasp!--TALKED ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP instead of just fighting each other, breaking stuff, screwing a girl the other one liked, etc.)
I also remember being stunned while watching "All the Real Girls," where two male friends were having a seriously heavy talk about their lives, and one started to get emotional; it not only ended with a hug, but a kiss on the neck/cheek from one to the other. Straight idiots would say, "Oh, you just want the whole world to be gay." No, I want to live in a world where straight men can feel comfortable showing affection and kindness to each other without fear, lest they keel over and die alone in a dive bar at age 60.
Thanks to comedies like this
and last year's Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist it's obvious that there are commercial fimmakers out there who realize that gay people are complex, multi-dimensional and eminently available for inclusion in "mainstream" films in all sorts of interesting ways. In other words they can't go back to the old "Fag jokes" anymore.
What's needed now is a commercial feature about the multi-dimensionality of our lives with an LBGT lead character, rather than just a supporting one.
Andy Samberg
Bromance
This entire concept of Mandates and Bromance has been looming around like the entire ideal of Cougars: Older women with younger men (Demi and Ashton, Janet and Jermaine and Kim C. and any hot available guy). I don't know who was the first set of celebs that were being accussed of being too chummy but the powers that be made a big commotion. I'm not sure if it was Matt and Lance or George, Brad and Matt but it seems that when the media gets an ideal in their head and everyone is talking about it, in due time there would be a movie or TV show, in the works.
I work at one of the most hippest restaurants/entertainment venues on the East Coast, I know this is a shameless Plug but my place of employment is called 'The Works in Wyomissing (www.gearforfun.com)' and I can honestly say that there is a pretty gay presence within our staff. That is from management to the regular staff employees, that our openly gay and not everyone is gay but I can say there is two managers, a handful if not more of employees (including myself), that are and I don't know about the bisexuals or bi-curious but I know they have floated in and out. The true beauty is the fact that there are some people that have never worked with or been around gay people. From the simple facts of not being traveled or being young because there are a few high schoolers on the job. Being employed for and at The Works, they are getting a crash course. I have to wholeheartedly say that I work with some of the most amazing and just down-to-earth people that I have every met and have the pleasure of meeting. Girls/women that come in every shape, size and color and are just drop-dead gorgeous and that is from the inside out. These girls are treated with the upmost respect and admiration from me and most if not all of them truly have love and appreciate for gay people like myself. Dealing with the guys is entirely another story because most of them are completely all over the place. Even though there are a few of them I wished were gay or even curious most are openly and proudly straight and practicing heterosexuals. I have realized that many went from being a bit homophobia to becoming the most comfortable men on the planet. Can I attribute some of their comfortableness to knowing me? I have to answer, 'Yes'. Without getting turned on or turned off, I can honestly say that I work with some of the hottest guys in the world. Metrosexuals without being too much metro, Playboys without being too crude and rude. The intellectual types without acting too much like Brainy Smurf and your average jock, that looks all steriod filled but big old teddy bears. I actually look forward to going to work and getting the opportunity to have a few hugfest and the occasional kiss on the cheek, with sometimes sends chills up and down my spine. I think many of our friendships/relationships went from gay panic, to them just realizing that I'm exactly like them, wanting friends, love and a bit of understanding.
"We don't shake hands around here, we hug it out!" I have realized that a large percentage of straight men are all about hugging and they even let us get in on the act.
I have to mention that many of these guys are the guys that at one point in time might have made fun of gay people and on occasion, I have to endure a bit of humor that I don't appreciate and I have to tell them about themselves and they understand. However there are a few times, that I go a bit overboard with the flirting and just being 'ME' and they have to tell me to cool my heels a bit and I understand. Regardless of us not always seeing eye-to-eye, I realized that most of their teasing isn't coming from a bad place and I try not to take it too seriously.
Did I mention and maybe I need to mention that most, if not all of these guys are so HOT and I'm not saying that because we are friends, co-workers and the dysfunctional family that we are but they really are some of the hottest guys I have ever seen in my life. By working with them, I get the opportunity to really get to know them and that makes them even hotter in my eyes. Still most of them treat me like an older brother and sometimes an older sister but I take what I can from them. Many of these guys don't care who's around or try to cover up the fact that they are my friends, and I truly feel appreciated, respected and loved by them, no matter where I am or who they are with. I know they get the occasional riot act from their friends from hanging out with me or talking with me but they get them straight right away, "That is my man Curtis!"
Sometimes being happily and unhappily single, I get a bit confused and mixed signals but at the end of the day, my Bromances with many of these guys make working there so worth it.
When 'I Now Pronounce You, Chuck and Larry' came out, I got a few invites to the movies from some of my co-workers but something about the previews told me, 'No'. Thank God because even guys that love to tell corny gay jokes from time to time, were a bit offended by the movie. However they love Ving Rhames turn in the film and said that his character reminded them of me. Insult or compliment? Who knows. I can say that there are a few guys that I work with that I would love to date but they tell me constantly that if they were gay or into men, I would be the first person they would look up or hook up with. If each of us had a dollar for those words, we would be rich.
It seems that Paul Rudd has been adorable for as long as I can remember and just gets better with time because it seems that he is just as handsome as he was in my favorite 90's flick, Clueless. I don't think that this film is going to hurt and harm his career because I know a few folks are worried about him getting trapped in these parts or films like this but I have to say that it works. For many of the guys and girls that missed him in films like Clueless and Object of My Affection, they get the opportunity to see him be the leading man that you would want to take home to meet the folks ,be your babies daddy and the only friend that you would want to share your deepest and darkest secrets because you know he wouldn't tell a soul.
F*ck bromances.
I'm still reeling....
...from this comment. How very sad and bitter. How could two straight guys being close friends with each other possibly diminish you in any way? What exactly are they stealing from you? The right of affection or love for another?
And white guys stole rock and roll from black guys????? Huh? All the fabulous black performers in history are still fabulous and have not been diminished by anything any white performer has done.
You need to rethink your hating. It's taking way too much of your energy.
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.
Holy cow
You'd Be Surprised
by the number of people that feel like he does. He is by no means the first and hardly the last.
A lot of gays of color feel excluded from the greater gay community. I'm not saying I agree with what he's saying and I'm definately not a fan of how he said it, but I see where he's coming from.
He really needs to learn how to articulate a point without pissing off everyone its aimed at. Plus, his comment hardly has anything to do with the movie, I'm guessing someone just had a really shitty week.
We Stand In Awe Before That Which Cannot Be Seen
Agreed
Part of the problem is (from what I've talked about with friends, etc) that, though not inherintly more homophobic or discriminatory, American communities of color (and not even just in the U.S.) seem less receptive to gays. I think that, particular to Prop 8 in California, support from the black and hispanic community was overwhelming (this is in response to your point about being excluded from the greater gay community).
He raised some valid concerns, but it was terribly phrased.
Disagreed
I suggest you read the original comment again, and you will find that no "valid concerns" are raised. I'm not saying that there isn't any validity to be found, but saying "I hate straight white men" is not exactly raising a legitimate concern, and the bizarre, non-sequitur assertion that white men stole rock and roll from black men doesn't count.
Actually, I take that back. There is no validity to be found anywhere in the statement "I hate [any particular group of people]." And as long as we as human beings think that there is, we will never get over our differences. Minorities do not have an automatic right to be bigots. I am not straight, but if I tolerated bigoted, hateful comments about straight people then it would be hypocritical of me to be offended by comments they make about gay people.
Huh? What exactly are you trying to say?
No one's saying that he has an "automatic right" to be a bigot because he presumibly a minority. And I hope you are going to try that "he's a minority, he should know better." jibe.
He's a person so he has the right (almost expectation) to act just as idiotically as any other person, him being a minority has nothing to do with it. And to be perfectly honest I don't appreciate that notion.
No one is saying that he's right, we're saying that he obviously has an issue that he could've voiced in a much better and appropriate way.
We Stand In Awe Before That Which Cannot Be Seen
Sadly, I wouldn't be
This is very disturbing
Keep your hands where I can see them, bro
afhickman
The bromance phenomenon is catching fire with the media. MSN offers their top ten list today (at http://movies.msn.com/galleryfeature/bromance/?GT1=28130) and it's a reliable one. One objection I might raise is that I've always fancied the relationship between the Charles Bronson and John Leyton characters in "The Great Escape" as something more than just a bromance. Plus, I've always fancied the coupling of Rick and Renault in "Casablanca" as something much nobler than anything suggested by the term bromance. My problem with all this is that it gives Hollywood the opportunity to tease us with male-on-male action but without any payoff. You realize, of course, that the ultimate betrayal of a bromance is to let the sex-monster rear its ugly head. End of story; no second chances. As long as homo-sex remains a taboo, we all have a problem.
"The mountain has wings."
Straight Male Intimacy
Thirty years ago, while in college, I came out to a very straight male friend from a "hugging" family. At spring break that year when his family came to collect him, he gave me a big hug and a full on kiss on the lips. His family didn't skip a beat, it was hugs all around. It was his way of showing everyone that he wasn't afraid of me or my gayness in the least. Given that at the time being gay was still illegal in our state, and all the bars still had entrances off back alleys, it was a huge moment in my self awareness to feel completely accepted by him and his parents. Times have changed a lot since then, but they still haven't completely caught up with my friend. I dream of a world where it's okay for straight men to be emotionally intimate, and its okay for gay people to be as intimate as they want to be, and folks are fine with either.
Nous Sommes Tous Sauvages.
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