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The Week in Gay Geek: Diane von Furstenberg teams with Diana Prince.
ANOTHER DAY OF WONDER:
Wonder Woman Day art by J Bone and Tim Fish
Wonder Woman Day art by JA Fludd and Patrick Fillion Online bidding will be open until October 25, the day before Wonder Woman Day. After that, bids made in person get a last chance to beat the online bids.
CHAMPIONS COUNTDOWN:
Champions Online I'd certainly like to see a good number of gay gamers get into the beta. MMOs have long been a dangerous ground for gay gamers since it's an environment with opportunities for harassment. Many games try to create a way to keep that danger under control, but that can have mixed results. A mix of perspectives helps make any test better and the gay gamer's perspective should be a part of it.
THE LINK BETWEEN THE RAWHIDE KID AND FREEDOM RING: Back in 2003, one of the titles in Marvel's Tsunami line was a new X-title, New Mutants from husband and wife writing team Nunzio Defilippis and Christina Weir. Defilippis and Weir already had a gay-inclusive history -- their 2003 Oni Press graphic novel Maria's Wedding focused on a family split over the last major family gathering, a same-sex wedding.
Defilippis & Weir's New Mutants and Maria's Wedding By the end of New Mutants' second story arc one of the team, Anole, would have come out as gay only to face rejection from his parents and best friends, tragically pushing Anole to suicide. However, the story never hit comic shops. As Defilippis explains:
We finish up Issue 12, and are starting to hear rumblings from Marvel. Issues 8 & 9 are drawn, Issue 8 is colored and lettered and going to the printer. But there’s finally a new guy at Marvel to replace Bill Jemas. And his mandate is to be less controversial. So a gay student killing himself is not a story he wants to see in his young-reader friendly book. Now, we can’t blame them for that - if they want the book young-reader friendly, a suicide story isn’t right for it. It’s simply bad timing - their definition of the book is changing after a story is already all but done.
So ideas are sent to us for ways to soft-pedal this story. Can we eliminate the lesbian kiss that sets off the parents? (The answer there is no, because without it, the story has no starting point) Can we not show the kiss, maybe have it happen off panel? (we tell them that’s a cop-out, so they opt to show it in silhouette only) Can Northstar never mention he’s gay? (This one threw us off, because he’s been out of the closet for a decade). Eventually we seem to defuse the situation (by silhouetting the kiss - the other stuff didn’t happen, thankfully), and go about our business.
So we head home for Thanksgiving, and get the news - the issue has been stopped at the printer’s. It was printed, but they don’t know if they’re going to distribute it. Marvel is deciding what to do.
This revelation helps shine a light on Marvel's troubling recent history with gays. Earlier in 2003, the company made waves with Rawhide Kid, a mini-series published under the mature readers Max imprint that revealed the classic western superhero as gay. A storm of controversy surrounded Rawhide Kid, with conservatives offended by the gay-focused comic and gays offended by how the title turned out to be little more than a parade of innuendo-based humor and that the story's gay protagonist was the butt of the jokes.
Marvel's Rawhide Kid and Marvel Team-Up Fast-forward to Marvel's next public outcry in 2006, when Marvel Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada mentioned to a convention panel that, due to the Rawhide Kid controversy, Marvel wouldn't be publishing any titles starring a gay character unless it were a 'mature readers' title. That statement inspired a wave of anger across comic blogs. If true, the policy amounted to a ban on gay characters since Marvel had given up on titles marked for 'mature readers'. What did it mean for the new hit series Young Avengers, an all-ages title with a prominent male couple? Some fans also pointed out the premise was stupid -- Rawhide Kid was a mature readers title, so what is gained by ghettoizing gay characters to 'mature readers' titles? Labeling Rawhide Kid as not for children certainly didn't make it immune to cries of "Will somebody think of the children?" Things got worse when Quesada tried to address the criticism. He said that the policy had been rescinded and pointed to Marvel Team Up, a series with a rotating cast currently starring a new gay character, Freedom Ring, as proof. However, fans were aware by then that Marvel Team Up had been canceled (so the effect was like Fox bragging about its gay inclusiveness and pointing to Do Not Disturb as an example) and, more importantly, Freedom Ring's story was in comic shops when Quesada initially discussed the policy. A few months later, the final issue of Marvel Team Up made critics even angrier when Freedom Ring met with a grisly death -- if Marvel Team Up were a sign of Marvel's gay newfound inclusiveness, it didn't feel like much of a welcome mat.
Anole in New Mutants follow up title, New X-Men Now we realize that in between those two incidents there was another gay-inclusive story that Marvel nixed. As part of the Tsunami line, New Mutants was meant to reach the manga audience that was booming in bookstores, a younger and more female audience than the typical Marvel comics reader. When Jemas left Marvel, that probably signaled a shift from seeing a controversial title like Rawhide Kid as one that generated buzz for Marvel to one that sees controversy as a headache. As infuriating as the story may be, there's a silver lining. According to his wikipedia entry, Anole was outed to readers in a 2006 mini-series, The X-Men: The 198 Files.
A FAMILIAR BIT OF CULTURE SHOCK:
One thing I would like to discuss is my largely negative personal experience at Yaoi-Con as a homosexual male. There were definitely some nice aspects of the Con: I wasn't assumed to be heterosexual (as I am everywhere else) and I was definitely welcomed by all the panelists and industry staff with great warmth. Furthermore, it was just relaxing to be in a place where male x male romance was desirable as opposed to being stigmatized. Generally though, that's where my warm fuzzies ended. Many of the cons main events were they "Bishonen Bingo", the "Continental Bishie Brunch", the "Bishonen Auction" and the "Bishonen Spanking Inferno" were horribly objectifying and dehumanizing...Every single one of the above Main Events emphasized the power differential between the paying benefactors and the nominally "gay" boys they were objectifying....I use quotes because part of the appeal is that all of these boys at the Con are nominally gay, though most aren't in real life.
One of the uncomfortable aspects of boy-meets-boy manga is that some of the straight women who create and read it look at gay men the same way some straight men look at lesbian sexuality -- strictly as something to titillate them and turn them on. Once their fun is done, they feel free to express apathy or even antipathy to the issues that affect the lives of real same-sex couples. That is, thankfully, merely a small part of those who read and create boy-meets-boy manga and when I examined the genre, I focused on creators like Fumi Yoshinaga and Yugi Yamada, whose work are improved by their attempts to depict male couples with a touch of realism. Still, it's a familiar bit of culture shock, a realization that the genre doesn't offer the opportunities for representation initially expected.
Fumi Yoshinaga's excellent The Moon and The Sandals The comment thread that follows has its interesting and infuriating moments but the one that I'm still contemplating comes from lesbian Yuricon founder (Yuri is lesbian-themed manga created with a straight male audience in mind) Erica Friedman.
One of the many reasons I founded Yuricon was specifically to combat this issue - with a staff that has a really reasonable representation of GLBTI members, as well as a nice mix of straight men and women, we find it very easy to welcome all people without pandering to stereotypes.
In fact, I have gone so far as to reject both staff applications and memberships when the comment was something like, “I don’t mind if two chicks kiss in front of me.” It was clear that the person completely missed the point of the event as a celebration of anime and manga and was instead looking for a public experience focused on titillation.
That got me thinking about how I've mostly seen gay men discussing YAOI in blogs or more general forums, but I've yet to encounter an active space where gays readers can discuss the genre. Is there such a space? If not perhaps there needs to be one?
THE FIERCE AND THE FAB:
Diane von Furstenberg Over the decades, I've felt that Warner has really struggled to figure out how to take advantage of the powerful icon that is Wonder Woman. Maybe von Furstenberg might be able to help them figure out how to make the character relevant to audiences. Submitted by on Thu, 2008-10-16 11:07. |
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I've just read the first 6
I've just read the first 6 issues of Young X-Men, which is quite fun (and drawn by Yannick Paquette, who gives us very cute guys), and Anole seems to be set to join the team. I'm not buying the comic, but I might get to it, between the entertaining stories, the good art, and the presence of a gay character.
François
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I think it's rather sad
I think it's rather sad that a column devoted to gay geekdom doesn't mention the past weekend's Gaylaxicon, which is the annual conference devoted to gay geekery and fandom.
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Comics, Champions, Yaoi...
Great Gay Geek Lyle!
Comics: I got the Rawhide Kid series after it came out as a TPB, and was fairly disappointed. Really, the only 'gayness' to it was innuendo and jokes. The stories in and of themselves were fine, acceptable, not really that ineresting, as I can't remember much anything about them at all now. There was some father/ son story... but I didn't like that that much either. And I was getting the Marvel Team-Up when they introduced Freedom Ring. I thought it was pretty impressive, as they had him meet a cute guy, go on a date, very early Spider-man, but gay. Then they killed him in, as you say above, a grisly manner. I was NOT happy about it. Still am not happy about it now. Anole however, has been out for a few years now I think, and fairly well handled. I suppose he's more neutered than Nuke really, as he has no other gay characters to interact with, BUT the rest of him has been dealt with fairly well. He and Rockslide seem to be good friends, and he had a nice solo story that had him interact with Northstar (who Anole just found out was alive again). And Anole is now a regular member of the new 'Young X-Men' book...which I think is the main reason I'm still reading it after what I considered a lackluster 1st story arc (which he is not in). [It also has the old New Mutants Dani and Roberto in it, if anyone cares]
Champions: Thanks for the update! I have been keeping my eye on this some, it looks neat! My bf has me playing EQII again, but I'm sure I can take time out to try to get into the Champions Beta...!
Yaoi: That's very interesting, I never realized there would be women just seeking the short term titilation from these books. (Of course, I should have realized, I just didn't!) At least Isaac Hale had a generally good/ accepting time with the people at the convention. And.... I think I had something else I was going to say, but in the 20 minutes I've gone between writing this post and doing work, I seem to have fogotten it. Can't have been too important then, right?
Anyway, great job! Look forward to this each week! I find it very informative (even if I don't post about it - I get busy!) Thanks!
In his younger days Barry Diller was Superwoman
Barry vs Egon
Diane likes her men light in the loafers, as they used to say ages ago. Who can forget Egon Von Furstenberg modelling his own fur designs in the nude. The Diller-Von Furstenberg match has more to do with estate taxes than a love that will keep them together.
INSIDEGUY
I tricked with Egon's boyfriend
His name was Camille.
He's dead now too.
Yaoi and Slashfic