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Watch and Discuss: Conan O'Brien Issues NBC's Response to GLAAD
There will only ever be one host of The Tonight Show to me - Johnny Carson is who I grew up with, and who I begged my parents to let me stay up and watch. He was a class act, and I truly believe somewhere Johnny Carson is rolling over in his grave. This morning we released our take on GLAAD's third annual Network Responsibility Index. We took our time and reported on the whole report, and tried to give the subject the attention it deserved. NBC received an 8% rating from GLAAD, a marginal improvement from its 6% failing grade it received in 2008. So you'd think the network that's at the bottom of the Neilsen ratings would be taking any and all input seriously. Instead network Standards and Practices chose to let Conan O'Brien make a joke about NBC's standing in representing a minority community. Take a look at the video response that aired last night.
Maybe he's actually making fun of his bosses at NBC. But given Conan's history with gay humor in the couple of months he's had the big boy chair at NBC's flagship Tonight Show, I'm thinking it's just a cheap joke to O'Brien. What do you think? Is the joke on NBC, or the gays? Would it have made it past Standards & Practices had it been any other minority group? And is it worse when a talk show takes the premeditated step of making a video as opposed to an off-the-cuff remark going badly? Via Joe.My.GodSubmitted by on Tue, 2009-07-28 16:32. |
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So funny I forgot to laugh
Cheap Joke
I thought
I didn't have a problem at all with this clip
Yeah, I think the point was...
...that there really aren't many gay characters on NBC! (Well except for... allthemenonChuck! :D) And yeah, the gladiators bit was funny. Also, the mention of gay animals usually gets a smile out of me. The only bit that seems slightly offensive was the bit of him teasing his friend about being gay - but it was almost tasteful as far as those kinds of jokes go.
I'm still not crazy about Conan, though.
"To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible." - Calvin of Calvin and Hobbes
whatever
grr its just a joke.
lets move on.
Okay...
So, I'm gonna take a wild stab here and guess that this was supposed to be funny?
Mind you, I've never been a big fan of Conan's, but this strikes me as just grasping at straws in the hopes of finding something he can wring a laugh out of.
Although, I would imagine that Conan has now been warned not to go anywhere near the set of American Gladiators...
well...........
So, I'm gonna take a wild stab here and guess that this was supposed to be funny?
Mind you, I've never been a big fan of Conan's, but this strikes me as just grasping at straws in the hopes of finding something he can wring a laugh out of.
Although, I would imagine that Conan has now been warned not to go anywhere near the set of American Gladiators...
lol Gladiators got cancelled months ago =)
Which just shows you...
...how much of my attention NBC has been getting. ;-)
Conan's as well it would seem.
all i watch on nbc
is the Office and Southland.
Office the MAIN reason i watch anything on that network.
Psionycx, this is he part where I admit...
...that my four favorite shows are on NBC. I don't get cable though, and I like it better than the other network channels...
"To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible." - Calvin of Calvin and Hobbes
I think the joke is on NBC programmers
Conan has done gay humor before, but not in a sniggering, let's-laugh-at-the-gays way (like Leno did all too often), more like "I get it, and I'm not afraid to spoof my own sexuality because I'm comfortable with myself and the situation." Unlike NBC brass, obviously, who probably WOULD have been reaching for pathetic tokens like the ones Conan spoofed.
It's Conan The Vulgarian, folks!
hmmm..
IF YOU EVER followed him from his Late Night days, he always talks down on himself. He NEVER assumes he's funny. How many people usually make fun of THEMselves compared to people who constantly make fun of other people?
But hey we, ALL have different tastes in things. I enjoy his comedy and humor. If you dont like it, why keep watching? Just sayin....
Insufficient data
I am not offended by the skit at all but I also don't think it is funny. As for who's the butt of the joke, IMO it is intentionally ambiguous. If I see more and more Conan jokes & skits on the subject, then the intent of this skit is probably gay-friendly.
I wish we lived in a world where TV characters could be of any sexual orientation and that it would simply be accepted as natural and real -- the same way that people in real life just are.
uh
I wish we lived in a world where TV characters could be of any sexual orientation and that it would simply be accepted as natural and real -- the same way that people in real life just are.
I don't know where you live where people "just are" (Marshmallow Pony Land?) but I would like to move there.
Marshmallow Pony Land
I don't know where you live where people "just are" (Marshmallow Pony Land?) but I would like to move there.
Marshmallow Pony Land?! I WANT TO MOVE THERE. Is that where NPH lives?
"To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible." - Calvin of Calvin and Hobbes
I'm pretty sure NPH is, in
State of mind
I happen to live in the United States; but no matter where I live, I just am who and what I am. The same goes for you, NPH, or anyone else.
Too many people don't accept others for who and what they are, or realize that sexual orientation -- even one that is different from one's own -- is natural and real. This denial/rejection of what is natural and real in life is reflected in how fictional characters are conceived, presented, and perceived.
No, I don't live in Marshmallow Pony Land. I don't want to move there. I want my world to change into a better place, where TV characters could be gay, bi, trans, straight, questioning, or whatever -- and it wouldn't be an issue.
ah Conan
ive been a fan of Conan for a long time and if people ever noticed it, he ALWAYS makes fun of his own network. Even Leno did that too.
I think it was harmless and more or less, showed that Conan was using this as another way to make fun of his own network. Nothing to get angry about.
Clip was fine but Conan really isn't funny
That was funny
Slightly Amusing
Really about the same take Conan and crew offer up on most subjects. I didn't find it offensive and didn't find it funny .. just slightly amusing. I be more interested in seeing an official statement from the nework on the issue or a lack of a statement would also speak loudly about how NBC views their gay audience.
really...
Not Every Joke is A Winner
tradition
The point of the "response" is that NBC is actually stupid enough to believe that a dog and a car are fair representations of a minority. It is a stab at the Network, not gays.
"How many people usually make fun of THEMselves compared to people who constantly make fun of other people?" I don't know. But that was Johnny Carson's schtick, always quick with a put down when one of his own jokes failed, it's something that both Leno and Conan copied. Making fun of the network(NBC) is also a tradition that they copied from Carson.
Being out is not "being an activist." It is being honest. Unfortunately it's such a rare commodity in this world that honesty often seems like activism.
This is SO obviously
It wasn't funny
glaad issues a serious report and they make a joke of it. I didn't find it totally offensive but I have to agree that if some other minority issued a report I don't believe Conan would have done a similar skit.
Huh?
The clip was mildly
The clip was mildly amusing. I'm not a big Conan fan, I'd pick Letterman any day.
I'm hoping nobody gets all in a snit about this 'cuz it would be the Letterman/Sarah Palin thing all over again and life is too short.
Really?
I like Conan. I am assured that there was no malicious intent. I'm more surprised that it is even an issue than the joke itself.