
While doing some research for an article I'm working on, I came across a really fascinating
article/transcription of one of the Nixon tapes. (From 1971 to 1974, Nixon arranged for virtually all of his White House conversations to be recorded. He eventually had to turn over these tapes during the Watergate proceedings.)
One particular tape recording (from May 14th, 1971) has President Nixon sharing his views on gays with John Ehrlichman and H.R. Haldeman. The transcription below is reconstructed from an article the Chicago Tribune ran in 1999, written by James Warren. The full text of that article can be found at the following
link. But the most interesting part (for me) is a discussion of how a CBS television show was glorifying homosexuality, and how gays were threatening society -- and ladies' fashion:
Haldeman: It's on every week. It's usually just done in the guy's home. It's usually just that guy, who's a hard-hat.
Nixon: That's right, he's a hard-hat. Looks like Jackie Gleason.
Haldeman: He has this hippie son-in-law and usually the general trend is to downgrade him and upgrade the son-in-law, make the square hard-hat out to be bad.
Ehrlichman: What's it called?.
Nixon: Archie's Guys. [sic] Archie is sitting here with his hippie son-in-law, married to the screwball daughter. The son-in-law apparently goes both ways. This guy (enters). He's obviously queer, wears an ascot, but not offensively so. Very clever. Uses nice language. Shows pictures of his parents. And so Arch goes down to the bar. Sees his best friend, who used to play professional football. Virile, strong, this and that. Then the fairy comes into the bar-- Now, I don't mind the homosexuality, I understand it . . . Nevertheless, goddamn, I don't think you glorify it on public television, homosexuality, even more than you glorify whores. We all know we have weaknesses. But, goddamn it, what do you think that does to kids? You know what happened to the Greeks! Homosexuality destroyed them. Sure, Aristotle was a homo. We all know that. So was Socrates.
Ehrlichman: But he [Socrates] never had the influence television had.
Nixon: You know what happened to the Romans? The last six Roman emperors were fags. Neither in a public way. You know what happened to the popes? They (had sex with) the nuns, that's been goin' on for years, centuries. But the Catholic Church went to hell, three or four centuries ago. It was homosexual, and it had to be cleaned out. That's what's happened to Britain, it happened earlier to France. Let's look at the strong societies: The Russians. Goddamn, they root 'em out. They don't let 'em around at all. I don't know what they do with them. Look at this country. You think the Russians allow dope? Homosexuality, dope, immorality are the enemies of strong societies. That's why the communists and left-wingers are clinging to one another. They're trying to destroy us. We have to stand up to this.
Ehrlichman: It's fatal liberality.
Nixon: Huh?.
Ehrlichman: It's fatal liberality. And with its use on television, it has such leverage.
Nixon: [Asking Ehrlichman to consider Northern California.] You know what's happened there.
Ehrlichman: San Francisco has just gone clear over.
Nixon: But it's not just the ratty part of town. The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove [an elite, secrecy-filled gathering outside San Francisco], which I attend from time to time. It is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco.
[At this point the discussion turns to gay men working in the ladies fashion industry.]
Nixon: Decorators. They got to do something. But we don't have to glorify it. You know one of the reasons fashions have made women look so terrible is because the goddamned designers hate women. Designers taking it out on the women. Now they're trying to get some more sexy things coming on again.
Ehrlichman: Hot pants.
Nixon: [murmuring] Jesus Christ.
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on Thu, 2007-03-08 19:07.
for further proof about what a douchebag Nixon was, rent "The U.S. vs. John Lennon". Bush is this generations' Nixon and the neo-conservatives are going to feel really stupid in 15-20 years when they realize what the rest of the world has already known.
Thanks for posting this. I read about his comment of gays destroying Rome several years ago. Now I see the whole thing. It shows you the delusion of some people.
On top of that, he even got just about all the details of that "All In The Family" episode WRONG. So he was a moron as well.
It wasn't just the last six, Tricky Dick.
Many of the early "emperors" (no such title actually existed, as the leader of the Roman world collected a bunch of constitutional offices which allowed them to rule like a monarch without actually being one...like George W. Bush) also engaged in some same-sex activitiy...
It would be more accurate to state that gays built Rome, and then gays destroyed Rome. Which would suggest that sexuality doesn't make a good or bad leader.
It's fascinating to me that we are the "boogey man" for so many straights.
When I was growing up the fear of the black man was this:
He was such a horny sexual deviant that he'll rape white women — so the Negro had to be watched like a rabid dog and locked up whenever possible.
The flip side was that there was another kind of Negro that was very docile and stupid (lame).
A type of jester, who liked to entertain, can sing and dance.
Now the gay man is the …Ëœfaggot' boogeyman
He's also a horny sexual deviant that'll rape — but this time it's boys - and the …Ëœfag' has the power to magically seduce young men — so the faggot has to be watched like a rabid dog and locked up whenever possible.
The flip side was that there was another kind of …Ëœfaggot' that was very docile and stupid (lame).
A type of jester, who liked to entertain, can sing and dance.
Gays or black males are to be feared as they are untrustworthy sexual deviants.
Gay is the new black.
Nixon expresses those boogeyman fears.
QTC